(6.6) League of Karthus! The Karthus Leona secret! (S6)
Karthus
Summoner Spells Back to Top
Most vilable ( current patch ): Flash / TP
Flash -> Playmaker / Disengage
Exhaust -> 
Can run Ignite instead
Can run Ignite insteadIgnite -> Can run Exhaust instead
Can run Exhaust insteadTP -> Fast Lane / Map presence / Tower Save / Homeguard Symbiosis due to the Homeguard changes ( NOTE )
NOTE: Homeguard change Patch 5.23: The " Homeguard " effect is no longer cancled if an abillity damages an enemy more then 4000Y away from your current position. ( +- Outside your base )
----------( OUT DATED )----------
->> Read: How does this Works?!
- Why Clarity / TP??
->> Read: How does this Works?!
----------( OUT DATED )----------
New Runes Back to Top
Masteries Back to Top
Go HAM or go HOME!
Abilities Back to Top
| Passive | ||||||||||||||||||
1 |
3 |
5 |
7 |
9 |
||||||||||||||
4 |
14 |
15 |
17 |
18 |
||||||||||||||
2 |
8 |
10 |
12 |
13 |
||||||||||||||
6 |
11 |
16 |
||||||||||||||||
At level 3, your wall of pain costs a lot of mana. 
already has enough CC, and you need the rank 2 Q dmg, to win the trades.
Items Back to Top
Starting Items
Core Items
Situational Items
Earlygame! The most important part of this combo!
With a total of + 55 ap from the runes + Dorans, you will be able to harass extremely hard! Carefull with your Mana!
It all depends on your Q aiming.
First Base!
750 gold:-> 
If less:-> 
1185 gold:-> +
+ 1850 gold:-> + Catalysator
+ Catalysator2000 gold:-> + Nedlessly Large Rod
+ Nedlessly Large RodItemorder:
Situational: You can't escape!
<->
<->
<->
---->>>
or
or
If they got a high amount of escape/gapclose, get ryjals as last inslot.
Situational: Y U DO MUCH DAMAGE?!
<-><-><->
---->>>ororWarmorgs on 
? :O Check it out! Especially in combination with spell vamp, it can be a huge tanky item.
? :O Check it out! Especially in combination with spell vamp, it can be a huge tanky item.Matchups Back to Top
-
AlistarEasy -
AnnieEasy -
AsheEasy -
BardMedium -
BlitzcrankEasy -
BrandMedium -
BraumMedium -
CaitlynHard -
CassiopeiaEasy -
CorkiMedium -
DravenEasy -
EzrealEasy -
FiddlesticksMedium -
GravesEasy -
JannaHard -
JinxEasy -
KalistaMedium -
KarmaEasy -
KayleEasy -
Kog'MawEasy -
LeonaHard -
LucianMedium -
LuluEasy -
LuxEasy -
Miss FortuneEasy -
MorganaMedium -
NamiEasy -
NautilusMedium -
NunuMedium -
PoppyEasy -
QuinnEasy
VS
Alistar
Easy
As long as you keep the lane safe in the midrange, you should be fine.
Don`t get knocked into the turret. Once alistar goes for an engage, it`s easy for leona to counterengage.
You can engage on alistar to denie his zoning capabillity.
The Leona CD`s are lowen then the alistar combo.
VS
Annie
Easy
1 - 2 E Q Leona engages on annie, and she`ll be tilted in the background.
Make sure you win the trade, and wait her to get out of position.
She is squishy early game and she don`t have enough mana to resist the lane.
Carefull with her stacks for the stun. Take her as a target, so you won`t get baited.
VS
Ashe
Easy
Ashe is one of the easyest ADC`s to play against.
She got a nice range, and with some peel, she could do some big damage.
STILL!
She has no disengage. 1 E Q Leona engage forces her both of the pots. Care to isolate the Q`s well enough to get at least 2 isolated.
Once she got Heal / Flash out, she`s on tilt.
VS
Bard
Medium
Winning the trades before the engage is the key.
Care not to get stunned by the Q.
Shouldn`t be to hard.
If he zones, it`s up to leona to find the right spot / moment to trade him.
VS
Blitzcrank
Easy
There`s no way to lose this, except if he get`s the zoning done!
Avoid to get zoned. Win an early trade, priority on the ADC / BC.
Both will put you in the safe spot.
If leona get`s hooked, she can counterengage.
She won`t get damaged to hard by the BC combo.
You can use his hook as a bait, and go for a counter engage, or you wait the ADC to get out of position.
VS
Brand
Medium
If you let him zone ( Bushcamp ), you will lose this.
HAM on brand! He`s squishy. Scare him, so he won`t get the zoning done.
Otherwise you`re in trouble.
Due to his squishyness, it`s important to get him tilted as fast as possible, without eating one of his combos -> Won the trade. Wait / Bait his Q or W, then go for the engage.
VS
Braum
Medium
If you don`t get the early advantage, he will outscale at the second baserun. Even tho it`s a braum. He`s squishy early game.
Once he goes for the Q, -> Engage. ( LvL 2 )
His passive is pretty annoying for Karthus. Avoid it in every case. Let Leona protect you as much as she can!
If he misses his Q, You can go for the ADC, or for Braum, if he`s out of position!
VS
Caitlyn
Hard
If Cait is a good cait, you won`t have any chance to get this done.
The only way to get her is forcing her into the backline and trading with the support.
Distance-O-meter:
Cait
I
I
I
SupportX
Leona
I
Karthus
Her escape has a big CD. therefore if you managed to bait it, just make sure, your Leona gets into the right spot for Cait / the supporter. At this time you can win some trades, if you didn`t have yet. Also make sure not to let her poke. Push LvL 2 as fast as possible.
VS
Cassiopeia
Easy
Go HAM or go HOME.
She`s extremely squish. 2x EQ combo -> Done.
VS
Corki
Medium
Same as Cait, he has a nice disengage, still i has a big cooldown. bait it, engage, once the Leona E is ready. Make sure not to lose the trade while baiting his jump.
Aso care about his burst. Dodge it.
VS
Draven
Easy
Early game! Carefull. If you lose this matchup, you are doing something wrong.
He has no disengage. He can conter the leona engage if well timed, but that`s pretty hard. So you should be able to win every trade.
Karthus needs to aim his Q s on the Draven blade spot. There`s no way you can miss those Q`s if leona zones the opponent support well enough.
He`s squishy, compared to other ADC`s. So get the early lane advantags. -> Gege EZ.
VS
Ezreal
Easy
He got some poke, but he needs to be out of position, because of leona, all the time.
Zoning is a big part in this matchup.
Once he used his E, there`s no way you can lose the all in, or at least forcing a flash / heal.
VS
Fiddlesticks
Medium
It isn`t played that often.
It can be annoying, but you can`t lose trades, once you forced fiddle to get OOM.
In this situation, the opposit ADC will try to harass and push as much as possible, because of the big CC / save kit of Fiddle.
Don`t let him do that.
Once Fiddle used his silence, you can go for the ADC. He won`t deal to much damage early, so you can allin at lvl 3 / 4
VS
Graves
Easy
He has a decent ammount of tuffness early, but you outscale at LVL 3, if you wait his Q.
Don`t get poked 2 much, get him out of mana, ot at least arround 35 %, so he won`t be able for a full combo, because of : OOM.
Otherwise, just make sure to win trades, wich isn`t that hard, because of his short AA range.
VS
Janna
Hard
She has everything in the kit to denie this tactic.
The only way to get this done at least a bit, is to dodge everything she has in the kit.
Bait the knockup, the shield AND try to get her slow to Leona.
Bait the knockup, the shield AND try to get her slow to Leona.
If you didn`t got traded at this moment, and you`re in a good spot, go for the counter engage, if you know your combo will be enough for an allin. ( Heal )
VS
Jinx
Easy
Compared to Karthus, jinx has a pretty low range. Except of her skillshot.
Try not to get poked with the rockets, and don`t let her push 2 hard. Make sure you get a lvl 1 q on her, without getting poked 2 much. Otherwise, push till LvL 2 and go for an E Q.
At this moment, she can`t trade as good as other ADCs, because of the low base damage.
Dodge / bait traps and allin it. Make sure you get her, don`t relie on your passive. Her`s will be hard to handle if you trigger it.
All in all, if Leona zones well enough, you won`t have any problem with this. but you have to win an early trade, otherwise, she will push you into the turret.
VS
Kalista
Medium
You may think, this would be a hard matchup, but it isn`t.
She need`s to kite. Once she`s out of position ( Level 4 ), she can`t escape from Leona.
Why?
Once she got slowed and jumped once, Leona has a pretty safe E aim due to the Jump CD and the slow. That`s the moment for the engage. Make sure not to have any spears into leona or Karthus, then give her a full combo.
There`s no way she can survive it at level 4, except some nasty annoying shields / Heals / Her heal / Flash.
But you WILL win the trade in every case if the combo hits her completely.
If then, she every tries to punish leona for that engag, you can use her kiting to your favour. make sure to wait with the Karthus Q`s till she did the first jump, then just skittle her down, wile she trys to disengage from leona. ( Wich she can`t, due to the kiting and the Leona E range. ) Either she get Q s by karthus OR eats the Leona E Q, and gets some more Karthus Q`s.
VS
Karma
Easy
Bait the combo, or at least her bind, then go for the counter engage. Her bind won`t help her disengage from Leona. Easy trades there. She will be OOM pretty fast.
Make sure to zone the ADC, so he won`t denie the trades on Karma. Priorityze her, as long as the ADC is out of position.
VS
Kayle
Easy
Low range support with only 1 usefull tool. The heal is pretty weak early, still could denie your damage. But it won`t help them to even the trade, due to the high magic damage output.
She`ll get oom, after the 3rd leona engage. Therefore, Kyle needs 2 Q`s and 3 Heals.
-> Engage time.
VS
Kog'Maw
Easy
Dodge the slow, counterengage. You win every trade. No way to lose this. Allin Lvl3, force flash / heal.
VS
Leona
Hard
Why ?
has a huge arsenal of CC and she is a big frontliner.If your 
engages with E, and your fast enough. you can trigger the first passive.
engages with E, and your fast enough. you can trigger the first passive.2nd: Q = 2nd passive. 3rd shield= 3rd passive. 4th: Ult= 4th Passive.
Q = 2nd passive. 3rd shield= 3rd passive. 4th: Ult= 4th Passive.40 dmg / passive -> 160 Dmg with the full combo, if well timed.
also got a nice cover potential.She's gonna need ( 
and 
) or ( 
and )
and 
) or ( 
and )As , you got Clarity / Teleport or Clarity / Flash. To make it even, could get heal, but it's weak against burst champions. ( To compense the missing heal on ). Like this, it will be an even fight, if both sides use heal, but it's dangerous against roams / assassins.
, you got Clarity / Teleport or Clarity / Flash. To make it even, could get heal, but it's weak against burst champions. ( To compense the missing heal on ). Like this, it will be an even fight, if both sides use heal, but it's dangerous against roams / assassins.VS
Lucian
Medium
Tricky lane. All about the leona skill here. Make sure you don`t get traded by his passive, while you zone.
Karthus needs to get closer to lucian to follow up the leona engage.
There`s a lot of skill needed to kite the lucian, while he is poking leona.
Do NOT go for lvl 2 / lvl 3 allin! Outscale at level 5.
VS
Lulu
Easy
Might be a bit annoying with the shield.
Still, if you can manage, not gto get pokes to much, you can outmana her pretty fast.
Harass the ADC, to bait her shields. Make sure not to engage while her shield is up.
VS
Lux
Easy
Lux is pretty easy.
Dodge the BInd / bait it.
Calculate the Prismatic Barrier into your engage.
She`s squishy, get some trades on her. Carefull with the bind!
VS
Miss Fortune
Easy
One of the easyest ADC`s to paly against.
She has a pretty low base MR, no escape and either more constant damage.
Leona can cancle her ult pretty easy.
VS
Morgana
Medium
Tricky.
Bait the bind, go ham.
It`s that simple.
Carefull with the bind, otherwise you could lose imporant trades.
VS
Nami
Easy
Even tho she has a decent heal, she`s squishy.
Once she used her Blessing, bait the Aque prison and " HAM " her down.
You can literally 1 shot her at level 3, if she has less then 6,3 MR runes.
VS
Nautilus
Medium
He has to frontline most of the time.
Once he engages, you can outkite him.
He can`t denie your range benefit.
Clear + for karthus, but you gotta be carefull with mana.
He`s an early tanky beast, if he has 12 MR.
VS
Nunu
Medium
As long as he`s not going tanky early, or having more then 8 MR runes, you can HAM him down.
Trade kills to avoid his scaling.
Done.
VS
Poppy
Easy
Don`t let it hit the wall -> Easy.
Outpoke after she lost her shield.
VS
Quinn
Easy
wait the bline, EQ Leona -> 1 shot.
How does this works?! Back to Top
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
and have some great symbiosis.The Leona Passive is triggered safely from range.
FOR :
: Runes: Max armor / Health / mr per Level or straight mr, if it's an ap poke supp.
Tanky supp masterys, no specialy needs.
Start Relic Shield, to get the early advantage. Decent heal + waveclear.
At this point: Instant engage!
FOR :
:Why W at Level 4?!
Your got enough CC and you need the MAX Q damage!
got enough CC and you need the MAX Q damage!----------( OUTDATED )----------
Why Clarity?!
If they concentrate on your mana, they waste an engage on , if she is skilled, and knows how to counter engage. You got an endless laningphase with clarity + Spell vamp.
, if she is skilled, and knows how to counter engage. You got an endless laningphase with clarity + Spell vamp.----------( OUTDATED )----------
Check out the Itembuild possibillities, and read the informations.
With the hughe early damage, you can kinda make the enemy botlane " Useless " till the 30th / 40th minute.
Once you destroyed the botlane, wich is gonna be pretty easy, if you practicise this combo, you can start roam, and get at least the mid Turret. The enemy botlane is gonna be binded on the botlane, cuz they can't do a **** and they need the farm / level / turret. And in the most cases, they are death or base, after you finished Botlane.
------>>>>>>>> THIS DOESN'T AFFECTS YOU IF YOU'RE NOT RUNNING TP <<<<<<<<-------
Now your team has more space for the map control. Start warding the jungles and keep them away from the mid / top tower. How? Use your TP! ( You also can use it to safe the kills, after you died on the botlane, and baits them, so you TP on a ward, placed in the right bush and cleanup the kills. In the best case, you can destroy the tower and start the roamingsessions )
baits them, so you TP on a ward, placed in the right bush and cleanup the kills. In the best case, you can destroy the tower and start the roamingsessions )"Homeguard" boots, are pertty nice in combination with Teleport. You can place your slow, position yourself on the best spot to avaid the escape. Communicate with your ! She should zone and CC them, before you show up with your Teleport!
! She should zone and CC them, before you show up with your Teleport!------>>>>>>>> THIS DOESN'T AFFECTS YOU IF YOU'RE NOT RUNNING TP <<<<<<<<-------
Don' t be afraid of dying! is made for dying. The important part is: When and where is the right moment and position to die? You need your Team! In an average game you can deal up to 80K damage to champions, wich is in the most cases MORE then the double of any other player in the whole match. You're not playing to win the lane. You're playing as a TEAM supporter. Keep this in your mind, and you will be victorious.
is made for dying. The important part is: When and where is the right moment and position to die? You need your Team! In an average game you can deal up to 80K damage to champions, wich is in the most cases MORE then the double of any other player in the whole match. You're not playing to win the lane. You're playing as a TEAM supporter. Keep this in your mind, and you will be victorious.Dont overextend! You are realy squishy! You need your ! Remember, it' s a Teamgame!
! Remember, it' s a Teamgame!If your engages, dont waste time and show some reactions!
engages, dont waste time and show some reactions!----------( OUTDATED )----------
Once you hit fullbuild, and you decide for the solo baron Build, make sure, you buy a sweeper, to clear the wards, if there were no wards, and you are sure, that noone knows, you're at the spot, solo it! ( Clarity + Archangle needs 2 be ready )
----------( OUTDATED )----------
Check nexus!!!
Before the game starts, check the MR for your lane +Jungler.
Tell your to fokus the one with the lowest MR/Sustain, if there is no way to escape.
to fokus the one with the lowest MR/Sustain, if there is no way to escape.( Situational : If you know, someone has no flash or escape rdy, set your priority on that champ to get at least 1 kill, before dying. )
If you die on the botlane, you got 3 Q's + Ult, if u already got WOTA, you can augment this on 4 Q's+ Ult.
Take your time to aim your qs, and finish them with ult! Trade kills!
I' ll try to make a YT tutorial for this, if I find the time. I hope, you enjoyed this guide, and it's gonna be a pleasure for you, to feel their pain!
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
REPORT BOTLANE ! Back to Top
That' s the first thing, you can read in the /all chat, when we enter the game.
- Why?
People cant : Accept Non meta, check profiles before they flame, cooperate or focus on teamplay in lower elo.
- Do I care?
No ... And Yes...
Everything we want in ranked, is to win. People are watching LCS, and if there are some non usual combos on the bot lane, it immediately counts as new meta.
- What to do to avoid or calm down flamers?
If you see, that they won' t stop flame, mute them. Don' t start useless time losing conversations. It won' t help your team. And if it doesn't helps your team, it also doesn't helps your self!
Try to explain, what you`re doing on the botlane, without spamming.
Ask if someone could cooperate and go for Caitlyn / Ezreal / Lucian / Tristana,etc on mid / top.
They got escape and follow up. = Safe lane and lategame ADC backup! It' s always an advantage for the lategame to have one in your Team, but not really necessary.
I' ll show you a new Meta, without playing in the LCS!
Stream Back to Top
Personal Notes Back to Top
An overall winrate of 58,6% with this combo seems to be a proof, that it`s working as intended.
Now, what you don`t know is, that the most difficult part about this, will probably be the champ selection.
How to explain people, you are going APC Karthus bot?
A lot of games I`ve lost, were caused due to uncooperative people.
Example: Entering champ select, telling my team in a friendly and clear way, what we are about to do on the botlane. When suddenly a wild short minded guy appears!
-General Teamwork: Whatup guys! Prebot with " XXX ". We`re Karthus + Leona Botlane! http://www.lolking.net/guides/288863 . Don`t worry, no trollerino :) Stream on! http://www.twitch.tv/xxxthedudegamingxxx
-General Teamwork: Bann prefs?
-Wild guy: Wtf stupid sh**t tard.
-Wild guy: Why you fkn trolling pc of sht
-General Teamwork: We`re not trolling, don`t worry, check out the links. Winrate + guide will approve :)
-Wild guy: Why should I? Fucking morons, always trolling!
-Wild guy: You go Karthus bot, I will troll.
-Wild guy: AP Lucian jungle OP
And so on.
Those matches are UNAVOIDABLE!
You have to deal with it, if you play nonmeta.
About 30 % of the matches out of the 100 lost this season, were caused due to such reactions.
Imagine, we would have a great community, and every 1 would cooperate in the team, how every 1 should be supposed to.
Don`t get me wrong. Some games were lost due to flamers, uncooperative guys, but on the other side, it`s also about the team composition.
The good part about this is, that Leona can peel for every one.
Once you`ve got your items, and you want to die in teamfights, you don`t need Leona anymore and she can peel for some one else, because you deffenetly WANT to die in Teamfights.
Therefore, Karhtus / Leona fits perfectly in every teamfight oriented compositions.
Also for splitpushing, Karthus can be very usefull.
Due to the removal of clarity, this is played with Teleport now.
You got your ultimate AND teleport to get the map presence.
In the best case, grab a mate of yours and practicise a bit in normal games. Once you`ve got the feeling for the engage timing, strong and weak points, you can head over in the real competition.
Usually, the community is focused on " meta "
Especially in the lower divisions. ( Flamer`s inn, is what I like to call it :P )
Get used to the magic of the " Mute button " !
There isn`t a guide out there, showing you 100 % how to get out of the lower divisions.
All you have to do is pracitcise a lot. Use the time given to you, effectively.
Scalings and little details may be the difference between W/L
Never flame, cooperate with your Team and be FRIENDLY!
This game is a lot about psychology. Some people may know how to handle it, others don`t.
Do NOT join time losing conversations with no positive impact on the game.
They are a big part of a huge ammount of games lost, due to them.
Outdated Content Back to Top
----------( OUTDATED )----------
1950 gold:-> + 
+ ->> Same as the 200% Q damage( if isolated ), the 12% spell vamp on your isolated Q will be 24%. ( Calculated on the AP ratio of the Q, wich is around 85%+- )
Isolate your Q well enough and get full life with a single minion wave.
In combination with clarity, you dont need to worry about siege, and you always got enough mana for the engages.
engages. ----------( OUTDATED )----------
->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->
----------( OUT DATED )----------
->> Read: How does this Works?!
- Why Clarity / TP??
->> Read: How does this Works?!
----------( OUT DATED )----------
->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->
----------( OUT DATED )----------
Itemorder:
Situational: You can't escape!
<-><-><-> ---->>>ororIf they got a high amount of escape/gapclose, get ryjals as last inslot.
Situational: Y U DO MUCH DAMAGE?!
<-><-><-> ---->>>ororSpellvamp and "Homeguard" no longer exists. None of the spellvamp related builds are vilable anymore for this setup.
----------( OUT DATED )----------
Loading comments...
Comments
Login to Comment
First
Prev
Next
Last
There are no comments yet. Log in to post the first comment!
Login to Comment
First
Prev
Next
Last
Cancel
Submit
